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Sick economy has patients skimping on meds

The ailing economy is leading many to skip doctor visits, skimp on their medicine, and put of tests. Physicians worry the result will be patients who need costly care later.

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{"commentId":3633763,"authorDomain":"linda-dahlstrom"}

Have you cut back on doctor's visits, recommended tests or healthy foods to save money in these tight times?

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Reply#1 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
{"commentId":3638767,"authorDomain":"joannduncan52"}

Please withold last name. I was due for mamogram last year. I will not get it this year or next year. My husband just got out of hospital and can not work anymore. We have cut out milk because of the costs. I go to 1 food bank everyweek for $10. . We hope to receive food stamps next month. I am on disability but do not go to see doctor. I can not afford the 20% payment. I have food allergies but  can not eat allergy free. I take my asthma inhaler medicine every other day to make it stretch. I expect a very lean holiday. I am hoping better next year. Thank you. 

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    #1.1 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3640438,"authorDomain":"pamsbass"}

    yes I will not buy much of my diabetes medicine because it is going up so much in price and I have insurance I got a letter today and said it is going up 30.00 more for each medicine .

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      #1.2 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3640989,"authorDomain":"jacktherat"}

                I lost my job last year as a result of being hit by a driver with no insurance.  My wife is very sick and I am managing to keep her in a good medical insurance program.  I have completly recovered and have allowed my medical insurance to lapse.  I guess I'll just depend on luck, the government isn't any help.  Charlie

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        #1.3 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3641569,"authorDomain":"flosouth125"}

        Yes I've omitted health care due to the cost. There are No GYN check ups, mammograms, cholesterol screenings, physicals or ANY M.D. office visits and there won't be any for a long time. Even with health insurance, co-pays and a high deductible are to much out of a tight budget. I already have stopped 2 medicines. Without insurance my medicines have cost over $800 EVERY MONTH-that's just the 2 I still have to take for my seizure disorder.

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        #1.4 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3641583,"authorDomain":"lethe"}

        Yes, I have put off buying necessary medication for my chronic illnesses because my insurance provider considers my prescriptions "non-formulary", despite the fact that they've been approved by the FDA for my conditions AND they've been on the market for several years. Also, I have put off doctor's appointments because I cannot afford the co-pay. I know I'm lucky to even HAVE insurance, but it doesn't help all that much anymore!

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          #1.5 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
          {"commentId":3642402,"authorDomain":"billball"}

          Yes.

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            #1.6 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
            {"commentId":3642814,"authorDomain":"victoriaseckler"}

            Are we really surprised by this??  For those of us that have lost our jobs, our homes, our medical insurance, filed bankruptcy, etc. this medical care/medication situation is just another symptom of the REAL problem and it's getting worse by the day.  Of course, we can take care of almost every other country, including India, China, etc., but we are not taking care of our own people.  How sad.  We're digging the whole deeper and deeper all the time, with no relief in sight.  I just have to wonder who is going to take care of all of us Baby Boomers that have led very productive lives up until the past eight years, as we age and live in poverty.  It is the biggest disgrace I've ever seen in my lifetime.  I just pray we are not at the point of no return.

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              #1.7 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT
              {"commentId":3642838,"authorDomain":"drea-tineo"}

              I am being treated for a lingering case of Post Partum Depression. I have not been able to fill my medication due to financial cut backs we have had to make. We were part of the large # of Americans who lost their home so starting over has been very hard! In the end it comes down to the fact that our childrens smiles mean more to me than my own!

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                #1.8 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:51 PM EDT
                {"commentId":3648018,"authorDomain":"markais"}

                My wife and I both work, but neither of us has an option for good medical coverage, just very basic. We make enough to pay the bills, but not much else. It's also enough to disqualify us from any financial assistance in medical treatments. So we're stuck between making too much money to get assistance, but not enough to cover the out-of-pocket expenses for anything more than a regular doctor office visit. I have an undiagnosed digestive issue that I had to cancel the tests for because they would cost thousands of dollars out of pocket. We're already a few thousand in debt for the tests done on a heart condition that reared its ugly head over the summer, and it will take years to pay that off unless one of us can manage to find a second job in Michigan's economy, which has been in recession/depression for about seven years.

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                  #1.9 - Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
                  {"commentId":4592079,"authorDomain":"stephen12304"}

                  I'm unable to get perscription meds because my insurance "Express Meds" will not send them to me because I cannot afford to pay my overdue bill. Both my wife and I are out of work and out of time.

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                    #1.10 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:30 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4592374,"authorDomain":"frannie-skeene"}

                    Not only am I skipping doctors appointments (not by choice, I have tried to make payment arrangements but they don't do it unless im paying as a copay.) but I am having to skip medications as well.   I am a diabetic who has autonomic and peripheral nueropathy as well as high blood pressure.   I have applied for medicaid, medicare, programs that would help with even half the cost but due to the economy and how you have to be on deaths door to be eligible for most programs I'm out of luck.  (Still waiting to hear about Medicare)  My numbers usually run in the upper 400's or higher depending on pain and stress.  (Even with eating properly and excecise).   

                    In the news video about people skipping out on meds and doctors appointments, there were statements made about how it will end up costing 'us' even more in the long run.  Statements like these irk me so badly.   The reasons why diabetes is becoming so expensive and deadly is because when you first get diagnosed there are NO programs out there to really help you.  Doctors appointments, tests, testing supplies, insulin, medications for all the other side illnesses (nueropathy, blood pressure, kidney, etc) are so expensive that you just can't really afford treatment.  With programs not being there for us until we are on kidney dialysis, blind, amputated limbs, etc is there any wonder why diabetes is running way into the billions?  If we were able to start getting treatment when first diagnosed there would be less spending due to treatment preventing the costlier side effects.    Sorry for the rant :(   I'm just tired of being sick all the time then seeing reports like these where they talk about how we are making things worse on the country and economy by making it more costly.   If we got the help when we first needed it, it wouldnt be as bad in my opinion.

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                      #1.11 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:59 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4592680,"authorDomain":"oceanwest-1"}

                      My husband and I are 74 years old. I'm still working. We've given up our RX drug plan because of the huge increase in monthly premiums.  It's cheaper to use WalMart's 3 months for $10 (and which a local supermkt has just begun) than use the drug plan with it's $40. monthly premium and $275 deductable. 2.5 years ago, the premium was $9. And we'll be using online Canadian drugs for what we can't get locally at a decent price. Next to go will be our Medicare Supplemental which is over $300 month for my husband and me. We simply can't afford it anymore.

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                        #1.12 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:34 PM EST
                        {"commentId":4593089,"authorDomain":"jacqueline-4"}

                        YES We have skipped or postponed necessary medical care due to high cost and the drug companies earning higher and higher profits off the people who can afford it least. We watched a love one die becasue when she was in hospital Medicaid covered her meds. Once released, she could not afford the drugs necessary to keep her alive. She should have had an office on Wall Street and all would be well.

                        We have been married for 42 years and are both on SS which barely covers our needs- not wants. My husband wants to work, but is considered too old to be hired in his field. He has tried other fields and the hidden "age discrimination" is active and not proveable. We have no savings or life insurance - we couldn't afford the cost of maintaining those. Drug companies and Drug Stores make enough profit to build a new Walgreens or CVS on every corner. And yet we can't afford to buy prescription drugs. There has to be something wrong with this picture.

                        My husband skips his meds to pay for mine! And we do have Medicare and supplimental insurance for as long as we can carry it. Even then the co-pays are more than our budget can handle with our health problesm.

                        Not to mention the total inability to obtain necessary dental work or eye care. By skipping those basic necessities, we are now in a position that my husband needs retinal surgery (covered by insurance) But the initial $104 exam that diagnosed it -  isn't covered!! I haven't had a mammorgram in over 5 years in spite of having had 3 previous surgeries and being told to make sure I have a follow up one every yr.

                        We struggle at home with helping each other on a daily basis. We have no idea who will pay for our funerals! We worked hard all our lives and now we live in fear and anxiety about what tomorrow will bring. Bail out the people who need it  - not the jerks on Wall Street with their multi-million dollar bonuses.

                        We will just wait for relief until we reach Heaven.

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                          #1.13 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:19 PM EST
                          {"commentId":4593342,"authorDomain":"bcnco"}

                          My hubby and I are retired, on medicare, no premium to pay to the HMO medigap plan we use.  BUT, my hubby has fallen into the donut hole with his part D RX plan for 2 yrs now.  AND we've noticed a definite decline in interest from our docs!!  One even told us he has to work for the ins. co., now, in order to stay in business!!  So far we've been able to manage it by begging the docs for 'samples' for him.  But you get to the point you throw your hands up and say is it worth the humiliation?!!  Last year I saw a doc twice - both times just to get my scripts renewed - no point in telling them anything that's not usual for you, they look at ya as if to say, "so die, why don't ya!!  You're old anyway and using up all this money and my time that could be used on younger people!!  This is what you have worked for all these years, this is the pay-back we're now getting.  Thanks, D.C. for the deals you cut with the drug lobbyists to get us the medicare part D.  Any other deals you're working on "for our benefits"?  So to disgruntled pre-retiree - ain't gonna get no better when ya get on medicare!!   Good luck!! 

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                            #1.14 - Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:45 PM EST
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                            {"commentId":3633786,"authorDomain":"linda-dahlstrom"}

                            Have you cut back on doctor's visits, recommended tests or healthy foods to save money in these tight times?

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                              Reply#2 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":3640884,"authorDomain":"vegasshopper"}

                              Yes, I only take my cholestrol medication every other night. Also, I hurt my back and I haven't been to the doctor because I know she will refer me to a specialist who will probably want xrays and tests and maybe physical therapy. Even though we are insured through an HMO, each one of those is another co-pay and that adds up.

                              I buy more store brands now which frequently have a higher sodium content. That's a problem, but as my name suggests I'm a pretty savvy shopper. Unfortunately, there are no coupons or sales on health care.

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                              #2.1 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":3641616,"authorDomain":"jk-oxford"}

                              I work for a large doctor's office as a clerical worker.  Our insurance has risen to a $2,500 deductible and will cost me $97 each payday.  I can not afford to pay for insurance for my daughter who is in college.  She can go to the clinic at school but I am praying she stays healthy.  I work for an office that does not offer free medical care as a benefit and will have to pay cost for their services.  I get a flu shot every year.  I do not plan to use the doctors that I work for due to the expense and cannot afford to take off work to see another doctor I use to work for (she treated me for free when I worked for her).  I don't take prescribed medications for cholesterol and dieting to lose weight.  Thankfully, I am fairly healthy.   I volunteer at a free medical clinic.  

                              I suggest anyone who needs regular medication especially for heart conditions, diabetes and hypertension inquire if there is a free medical clinic in your area.  The clinic I volunteer for treats patients that do not have any insurance and fall below 200% of the poverty level.  In the long run, it is less expensive to fill a generic medication than to pay for an emergency room visit or a hospital stay.  If there are any samples available, sometimes the clinic will give these to patients.  Also, the health department gives pap smears, may give free mammograms and will do labs at a reasonable cost.  The local hospitals may have programs for free mammograms or at a reduced cost.  Last suggestion, if you are an established patient, talk with your doctor and the billing department.  The doctor may write off the charge or discount the visit.  The billing department can work out a budget plan, but find this out before the visit.  Make sure you let someone know what is going on.  It doesn't hurt to ask! 

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                                #2.2 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":3725627,"authorDomain":"claudia505"}

                                 Even with health coverage that we pay hundreds a month for, we can't afford regular Dr visits or prescription medications because the co-pays are too high. We can't drop health coverage completely becuase we couldn't get it back due to "pre-existing" conditions. So we pay for coverage that's too expensive to use, which keeps us from affording basic visits and medication - what's a person to do??

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                                  #2.3 - Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
                                  {"commentId":4435510,"authorDomain":"christichristman"}

                                  I had my dr check my med list and change what he could, to meds on Wal-Mart's $4 list, and tell me which meds I could try at 1/2 a pill a day- this has cut my co-pay cost from over $300 a month, before, to now under $100 a month, in a safe fashion: with 8 prescriptions and 5 over-the-counters, I don't dare mess with things without the dr being involved but both my husband and I lost our jobs 5 years ago and we needed to change the costs- it has helped.

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                                    #2.4 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:47 PM EST
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                                    {"commentId":3634784,"authorDomain":"yahoo-2"}

                                    Yes, I quit filling one of my blood pressure medications because of the out-of-pocket expense for it.  And I've put off taking the kids to the doctor until I'm really sure they have to go.

                                    I'm already making monthly payments on the bills for an emergency room visit earlier this year - we can't afford another one.

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                                      Reply#3 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
                                      {"commentId":3639347,"authorDomain":"translatoradela"}

                                      I've tried to stretch my blood pressure medication and ended up in an emergency room with a severe blood pressure reading of 210/110 and a pulse of 100+.

                                      Now I get my medication at Wal-Mart, generics. Tell your doctor to switch your medications to generics.

                                      I did not have a mammogram or a pep smear for 9 years. I have high cholesterol but don't take medicine for it because I would have to have tests twice yearly.

                                      When my husband had water in his elbow he drained it himself. I do not recommend it.

                                      When he almost cut off his finger by an electric saw he treated it himself - I just prayed and cried everytime I've changed his bandages.

                                      When we went to a food bank in Phoenix they turned us away because we did not have children. The only thing we had left to eat were 2 eggs.

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                                        #3.1 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
                                        {"commentId":3644571,"authorDomain":"dianesef"}

                                        There are ways to help yourself.  You need to get mammograms.  Look for the mobile mammogram - they are FREE.  It visits local areas here in PHX many times per year.  you can get FREE cholesterol screenings at many health fairs here.  They happen all the time.  You need to be proactive, but it can be done.  Do NOT die hopeless.

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                                          #3.2 - Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:42 AM EDT
                                          {"commentId":3646213,"authorDomain":"novelist"}

                                          Adela,

                                          Please don't skimp on your blood pressure medication--no matter what.  This is how I ended up with kidney failure and will probably need dialysis soon--and over a very short period of time.  And my blood pressure wasn't nearly as high as yours. Mine was only running 130/90 most of the time--at highest it was 150/110.

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                                            #3.3 - Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:17 AM EDT
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                                            {"commentId":3635297,"authorDomain":"chickey-soup"}

                                            Yes. I suffer from sever depression.  I happen to be difficult to treat - I have bad reactions to many medications and don't respond at all to others.  I am currently on Lexapro which works but has no generic.  And my prescribed dose is 30 mg daily - but my insurance (apparently they know more then a doctor) will only allow up to a 20 mg per day supply.  So I can either fill it at 20/day for $35.00 a month (a ridiculous cost but hey at least I still have insurance) and take less then I need which wll probably have the affect of a longer treatment time and a more likely relapse or pay over $100.00 a month to get what I need.

                                            Unfortunately I have to take the lower dose and hope like hell I don't relapse.

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                                              Reply#4 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
                                              {"commentId":3635962,"authorDomain":"osdhchick"}

                                              Because I have no health insurance after loosing my job in May, I have cut back on insulin because the cost is $184 for a month's supply.  I have cut dosage to 75% of what I was taking. 

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                                                Reply#5 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
                                                {"commentId":3639797,"authorDomain":"revsolsen"}

                                                I agree with Nana3 - check with your doctor.  There are older varieties of insulin that are less expensive - and Walmart's brand "Relion" is half the price of the name brands.  Check with your doctor about what changes you can make to save money.

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                                                  #5.1 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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                                                  {"commentId":3639226,"authorDomain":"hyshaffer"}

                                                  Dixie, please do not cut your insulin. Go by your local health department, they can give you information as to where you can get assistance. Call your local welfare office. Talk to you pastor at church. Do not mess with your insulin dosage without talking to your doctor first.

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                                                    Reply#6 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
                                                    {"commentId":3639484,"authorDomain":"tsalagikola"}

                                                    I am on Social Security Disability and 100% disabled and my Medicaid started March 2008 but I thought I was covered for my other health problems and I had a heart attack in April 2008 I spent almost 3 days in ICU and about 3 or 4 more days in the hospital  and when I got out I found out they took me off Medicaid the last day of March 2008 and would they would put me on Medicare September 2008.

                                                    I called and asked when did they take me off Medicaid and why they gave me no notice about taking me off Medicaid I was told sometimes they let people know they have no coverage and sometimes the do not. So since my heart attack I have only been able to buy my heart medicines in May and after that I had to quit buying my heart medicines. I still have chest pains but theres nothing I can do but hope I don't have another heart attack again.

                                                    I have called and called and still can't get help for my meds and after I got out of the hospital I had to miss all my doctor appointments because I can't pay so I live with daily fear of having another heart attack because the heart attack I had did kill me and they brought me back 2 times.

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                                                      Reply#7 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
                                                      {"commentId":3639758,"authorDomain":"revsolsen"}

                                                      Of course we've cut back on medical expenses - like everything else.  There's no more money coming in and expenses keep going up.  We hoped to get caught up when gas prices started going down, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.  Maybe when we can retire and get Medicare we can get some medical care (Ha, Ha, Ha).  The only ones who can really afford medical care are the fat cats with golden parachutes and the government employees.

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                                                        Reply#8 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
                                                        {"commentId":3639905,"authorDomain":"domd06"}

                                                        Yes we have. I have a special needs daughter who requires a tremendous amount of medical care. For example I am paying down a large balance for major surgery she had July 2007. Between the physicians bill & hospital facility charge, I am paying $300 per month. Additionally she requires constant medical attention which has already exceeded the company benefit plan, so I am paying for additional testing, re-ocurring prescription medicinal costs for her as well as myself , physician visits (both pediatrician as well as bevy of specialists). She required a pair of leg braces which I have to pay for out of pocket($3600 & I am going to pay them $100/month on top of the $1000 down I gave them). The company I work for severely downgraded their company health care plan about 2 years ago, and it has hit my family extremely hard. However I do refuse to skimp 1 inch on my children's healthcare. Personally my doctor recommends a bone density test for me as a precautionary because I have been taking Nexium for 8 years and data shows potential issues with long term use. I however am going to skip this test due to the financial cost. My dentist is trying to get me in for a cleaning & checkup and I am scheduled, but I am going to cancel; I don't want him to "find" anything that I won't be able to pay for. So we will brush twice daily, floss and hope for the best. My Barretts condition warrants an annual exam & biopsy which I will continue to follow up with. Otherwise I am fortunate to be working, however the future does look grim thru my eyes.

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                                                          Reply#9 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
                                                          {"commentId":3639913,"authorDomain":"ketchupy04"}

                                                          I have lived this non-medical lifestyle for many years.  I have no insurance and make very little money.  I have a file folder full of prescriptions I've never had filled.  If I get sick, I treat myself using over the counter meds.  If I get REALLY sick, I'll go to the emergency room.  That is, if I've got the gas money to get there. 

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                                                            Reply#10 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
                                                            {"commentId":3640018,"authorDomain":"blkftsioux"}

                                                            I have what is considered "very good" insurance through my employer (local government) but premiums increased in Sept and will increase again in Dec and we are likely to see co-pays and deductibles increase at that time as well.  I have asthma, diabetes, high cholesterol, and high blood pressure and the medications are still nearly $200 a month in co-pays alone.  seeing the doctor for the needed tests......plus gas money to get  there! Unreal! Right now our plan year was extended so am having some tests run that I had been putting off because of the cost........a major surgery in the beginning of the plan year put me at the max out of pocket level for the year but still have over $20,000. in unpaid medical bills from that.  My income has not gone up but my out go has nearly doubled in the past 6 months.  Our utilities went up from 10 to 20%, gasoline is still over $3. a gal here. and food bills about kill the budget.  It is hard to make balanced diabetic low fat and salt free meals when the price of the ingredients is triple the cost of 6 months ago.

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                                                              Reply#11 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
                                                              {"commentId":3640043,"authorDomain":"domd06"}

                                                              Yes we have. I have a special needs daughter who requires a tremendous amount of medical care. For example I am paying down a large balance for major surgery she had July 2007. Between the physicians bill & hospital facility charge, I am paying $300 per month. Additionally she requires constant medical attention which has already exceeded the company benefit plan, so I am paying for additional testing, re-ocurring prescription medicinal costs for her as well as myself , physician visits (both pediatrician as well as bevy of specialists). She required a pair of leg braces which I have to pay for out of pocket($3600 & I am going to pay them $100/month on top of the $1000 down I gave them). The company I work for severely downgraded their company health care plan about 2 years ago, and it has hit my family extremely hard. However I do refuse to skimp 1 inch on my children's healthcare. Personally my doctor recommends a bone density test for me as a precautionary because I have been taking Nexium for 8 years and data shows potential issues with long term use. I however am going to skip this test due to the financial cost. My dentist is trying to get me in for a cleaning & checkup and I am scheduled, but I am going to cancel; I don't want him to "find" anything that I won't be able to pay for. So we will brush twice daily, floss and hope for the best. My Barretts condition warrants an annual exam & biopsy which I will continue to follow up with. Otherwise I am fortunate to be working, however the future does look grim thru my eyes.

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                                                                Reply#12 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
                                                                {"commentId":3641842,"authorDomain":"lethe"}

                                                                I was touched by your posting and wanted to let you know that many doctors and hospitals will agree to discount or write-off large balances. I am a former office manager for a health-care provider, and we wrote off many accounts. Our business received a tax break and we felt good about helping out good people. PLEASE check with your daughter's physicians, anethesiologists, and hospital(s) about receiving a discount. You certainly sound like you are more than deserving of a break!

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                                                                  #12.1 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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                                                                  {"commentId":3640177,"authorDomain":"isouldlaugh"}

                                                                  Hey, in my neck of the woods all you have to do is not have a wallet, walk into the emergency and act all disoriented and make sure you speaka no Englisha.   Free health care!

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                                                                    Reply#13 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
                                                                    {"commentId":3640582,"authorDomain":"pamsbass"}

                                                                    I will be cutting my diabete medicine and not taking everyday because they have gone up 30.00 pre medicine and I have insurance and with all my husband's medicine I can't get it all.

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                                                                      Reply#14 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
                                                                      {"commentId":3641015,"authorDomain":"dmccreedy"}

                                                                      I lost my job in July, in Michigan, and am on COBRA insurance.  Money is getting tight and the payments for COBRA are $500 per month, so I'll have to end that soon.  When that goes all of my meds go too, including my high blood pressure meds.

                                                                      I just want to say I could not resent the bailout any more than I do.  And I believe GWB to be the anti-christ.

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                                                                      Reply#15 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
                                                                      {"commentId":3641324,"authorDomain":"brooklynbrenda"}

                                                                      He Is and please dont forget his minions...Good luck Dan

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                                                                        #15.1 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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                                                                        {"commentId":3641023,"authorDomain":"brooklynbrenda"}

                                                                        My Husband and I are both self employed, he as a cabinetmaker/contractor and myself as a furniture repair and refinisher...after 30 years we had to shut our shop. Wed love to have health insurance but were also rather fond of eating and staying warm. My husband had to forego a stress test because when I called to make the appointment I was told it would cost $5000. of which they had to have $3000. up front (we could pay off the rest @ $100. amonth plus interest of course). We are already paying off an emergency room visit for a nail in hubbys foot, that was $10,000. Me? I must take 2 meds everyday for the rest of my life, luckily they are both generics. I have 2 other meds I have open prescriptions for but only need them occasionally...one of the two is filled 6 (yes SIX) tablets at a time because of cost. I see Im far from alone.

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                                                                          Reply#16 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
                                                                          {"commentId":3641341,"authorDomain":"sashown54"}

                                                                          I am 55 year old woman: long story, short version- husband cheated, divorced me, lost medical insurance, security for old age, no job experience, only found a job I could do after nearly two years. I can't work full-time because of health problems. Even if I could work full-time, couldn't afford the premiums for the insurance offered thru my company. All my pay, plus the monthly pension allowance from my ex that was granted in the divorce goes to paying my rent, utilities and to buy things I need that food stamps will not pay for, like gas and reapirs on the 1986 auto which gets me back and forth to work and the grocery store. My state is the pits for helping any woman who is not unwed and pregnant or who hasn't a house full of kids. I have been turned down many times because I am not promiscuos, and am past childbearing years. I finally got help thru my state paying for my prescriptions that I take daily for my conditions, I am allowed 5 rx's per month at $3 each which I thank God for the help thru my state but it is getting worse everywhere and I don't see any light at the end of my personal dark tunnel. I make monthly payments for bi-annual checkups from my doctor whom I have seen for many years and he understands my financial plight. However I can no longer afford the high cost of blood work so have stopped taking my cholesterol medicine, which was too costly to pay for anyway.

                                                                          I had emergency surgery for gall bladder removal this past January, at the time I was not working, had no income and was living off my credit card to keep from being thrown out on the streets or going hungry. The state in it's infinite wisdom, said I could pay the bills for my surgery and now I am preparing to file bankruptcy. I don't know what else to do. With bills totalling over $20,000 I have no other recourse.

                                                                          My simple, yet morbid, plan is this. The next time I get sick, I will just sit here at my little apartment and die. Someone will eventually find me and all my paperwork is in order with instructions for my burial and the distribution of what little furniture and clothing I own. I will never again go thru the humiliating and embarrassing circumstances again that I am going thru now.   

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                                                                          Reply#17 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
                                                                          {"commentId":3641468,"authorDomain":"brendachsaney"}

                                                                          I read this and had to pinch myself: poor people cutting back on health is news?  Poor people have always had to cut back on health care.  They are poor.  This is not new. The better article would have been why we continue to have a system where poor people have to choose between medicine and rent or food and the people who were responsible for banks failing are geting huge bonuses. They won't be cutting back on health care.  This was going on before the recent economic downturn. It is not news. 

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                                                                          Reply#18 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
                                                                          {"commentId":3641564,"authorDomain":"df83455"}

                                                                          Yes. I am on Social Security Disability, cannot drive and have been denied services at our local hospital. My asthma and joint pain gets so bad sometimes I sleep for a few hours a day. I cannot afford dental, medication, eye exams, and now they want me to do a physical and colonoscopy. The doctors have even called and sent letters requesting I get this done. I don't drink,smoke or do any "illegal" drugs and can't get help from our state or county.

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                                                                            Reply#19 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT
                                                                            {"commentId":3641742,"authorDomain":"flosouth125"}

                                                                            Yes I am not getting the health and medical care I should. At 49, I won't be getting any mammograms, GYN check ups, cardiac screening, cholesterol checks or anything else. Having health insurance doesn't help alot unless you have some catastrophic event. The 2 meds I HAVE to have cost over $800 a month. I don't think the state of health care will ever improve for middle class working people. I'm come to accept I'll never be a member of the socio-economic group that can afford to "get the latest, greatest healthcare".

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                                                                              Reply#20 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
                                                                              {"commentId":3644501,"authorDomain":"dianesef"}

                                                                              Florrie - If someone told you today that as a result of your lack of screenings, you had, say 5 years left?  Would you scrip and save to get the checks you need?  You need to WORK THE SYSTEM.  Look for local fire stations, health clinics, pharmacies, community centers offering health fairs.  There are always free mamo-wagons, cholesterol checks, blood pressure checks.  That only leaves you with the Gyn exam each year and you should be able to scrape that one together.  This is for YOU and YOUR FAMILY.  When your life is over, that's it.  OR worse yet, you could get sick and become a long term care patient of some kind. 

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                                                                                #20.1 - Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:37 AM EDT
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                                                                                {"commentId":3641754,"authorDomain":"lethe"}

                                                                                Of course I'm cutting back on healthcare expenses, just like the rest of the "working poor" in our economy. My husband and I both have jobs working 60+ hours per week, leaving barely enough time to spend with our kindergarten-aged child, for whom we are trying to provide food, shelter, and running water. I have two chronic health conditions for which the prescription drug co-payments are more than $350 per month. We have been told we "make too much" to receive assistance with prescription costs from the drug companies. Our insurance provider is a nation-wide "excellent" health-care provider, yet many of the medications I take are considered non-formulary despite being FDA-approved and having been on the market for over five years. My conditions are also considered unrecognized by my insurance provider. My doctor has suggested I apply for disability because my conditions are debilitating and progressive. Who can afford to do that? We are barely making ends meet as it is, and let me tell you, those ends are seriously frayed! God bless those who don't have insurance because I don't know how they make it at all.

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                                                                                Reply#21 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
                                                                                {"commentId":3641828,"authorDomain":"kbird32"}

                                                                                I BREAK MY PILLS IN HALF TO GET SOME OF THE MEDICATION... AND AS FAR AS FOOD GOES... I EAT BEANS (PROTEIN), DRIED FOODS LIKE POTATOES.. I DRINK POWDERED DRINKS (CAN BE DELUTED AND STILL GET SOME NUTRITION).  I GO TO THE DOLLAR STORE AND GET WHAT PERSONAL PRODUCTS THAT I CAN.  THANK GOD FOR THE DOLLAR STORE.  THANKS FOR ASKING. 

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                                                                                  Reply#22 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
                                                                                  {"commentId":3642002,"authorDomain":"donnarchd"}

                                                                                  Yes we have cut back. I have been cutting my anti-depressants in half. quit my Fish Oil, quit my 81 ASA a day, cutting my synthroid in half. I am pre-diabetic. trying to eat right, lose weight and exercise. Hubby's position, after 16 yrs, was eliminated in 7-08. I am working two jobs to make ends meet. Cars are breaking down. Not cheap to fix. I need a tooth extracted and they want money up front. Can't do it. I pray to stay healthy as hubby is disabled too and needs lots of medical care. He uses VA but that doesn't cover everything. And it is 50 miles one way to get there. We have been using a food program for over a year. OH not to mention that we filed Chapter 13 a year ago and lost our beautiful home. So things look bleak. BTW I am a nurse.

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                                                                                    Reply#23 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:55 PM EDT
                                                                                    {"commentId":3642076,"authorDomain":"rbmarquis"}

                                                                                    For the people who are cutting back on health care, the following suggestions. Most states have Public Health Nursing Agencies, look them up, they usually offer a lot of free and/or reduced services. For medicines you can not afford ask your doctor about the "Indigent Drug Program" and that program is initiated by the pharmaceutical companies to provide your medicine "FREE" of charge. You fill out the top, the doctor signs it and sends to the company. The medicine comes in the mail, usually to your medical facility where you stop to pick it up. Check out on the internet the various programs that are offered free or reduced cost for dental, vision, etc. Do not be afraid to utilize the services that is what they are for. Also, go to local county "Human Service Department" and sign up for state health insurance, the only way the "Powers" of this country will realize there is a problem is by statistics, so become one by obtaining services. Check out if there is a "Community Action Agency" to help pay for weatherization, electrical and heating needs. Also for medical bills ask the hospital if they have a "Special fund" in the budget for people who cannot pay the hospital bill, guarantee there probably is one. I wish you all the best. We live simply in our neck of the woods but work hard and get wonderful benefits through the Operating Engineer Local 49 Organization of where my husband is a union member. Union members can work for many different employers in the construction season but all the benefits are paid into one fund, hence you work three works on one job, two weeks on another job, etc., it is not so earth shattering, not putting all your eggs in one basket. One of the perks of fighting for union help and organizing is the ability to continually pay into the same health and welfare fund for health, vision, and dental perks. Also pays into a "bank" of hours so employee can be off work for months but have enough hours banked for health insurance coverage without having to pay extra during times of lay-off. Maybe this country has to rise up and say "Enough is enough" and start looking at bartering for union work and quit sending everything over seas. God bless all of you. I have been there like you have been and pray it never happens again, but if it does, I am not too proud to utilize the free services out there.

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                                                                                    Reply#24 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
                                                                                    {"commentId":3642077,"authorDomain":"jk-oxford"}

                                                                                    I work for a doctor's office and volunteer for a free medical clinic.  I am a clerical worker and not a nurse.  The insurance is going to cost me $97 a pay period and I am going to have a $2,500 deductible, I cannot add my college-age daughter to my insurance because of the expense.  The office I work for does not offer free medical care as a benefit, so I do not plan on using them unless I am very sick.  I refuse to take the cholesterol medication I was prescribed and to get the required lab work.  I do take a flu shot every year.  I am trying to lose weight and to stay healthy.  The medical clinic I volunteer for is a great service for those that do not have medical insurance and fall below 200% the proverty level.  The physicians will prescribe generic medications and the clinic offers some free lab work.  They refer patients that need pap smears, some other labs, and mammograms to the health department.  More and more communities and churches are opening up clinics.  They are a Godsend and keep lot of people out of the emergency rooms.  The draw back is that the people have to wait for hours before being seen and there are a limited number of appointments available.  Keep in mind, the physicians, the nurses and other staff do not get paid and are volunteering there time, money and resources.  If samples are available, they are given to patients but most of the time they are limited.  At the clinic I volunteer for, the main physicians are my employers and are the best in the county.  - Another suggestion, I can offer, speak to the billing department and the physician before an office visit.  Some will either write off the cost or will reduce the charges for hardship cases.  It doesn't hurt to ask.

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                                                                                      Reply#25 - Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
                                                                                      {"commentId":3644418,"authorDomain":"dianesef"}

                                                                                      Not taking your cholesterol medication is asking for an early grave.  Is that what you want?  You need to do this for yourself and your children.

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                                                                                        #25.1 - Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:31 AM EDT
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